tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6439308861922854494.post9082966241810566008..comments2023-10-26T08:16:53.347+01:00Comments on Church Arise!: Restoration without genuine repentance: of Liardon, Bentley, Haggard and coCHURCH ARISE!http://www.blogger.com/profile/13882382240778134703noreply@blogger.comBlogger31125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6439308861922854494.post-19060124619581417192020-01-15T18:32:44.190+01:002020-01-15T18:32:44.190+01:00Totally agree with everything written above. Totally agree with everything written above. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08387197463808124251noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6439308861922854494.post-20372250617333151052020-01-15T18:30:10.414+01:002020-01-15T18:30:10.414+01:00The point is that he didn't publicly apologise...The point is that he didn't publicly apologise and if you are leading a church the least you can do is that and ask for forgiveness from the body as it affected all of them. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08387197463808124251noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6439308861922854494.post-12322827830738595692020-01-15T18:23:50.917+01:002020-01-15T18:23:50.917+01:00I think the point is that Liardon was back in lead...I think the point is that Liardon was back in leadership after just 3 months, the usual time scale is 1 Yr and then a review by 'elders'. Ms Sian Pearsonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6439308861922854494.post-61271993494799955182019-05-31T02:54:03.323+01:002019-05-31T02:54:03.323+01:00Well said my brother! Well said my brother! Robert Rosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16949902437201444567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6439308861922854494.post-89066801330929769152019-05-31T02:51:32.514+01:002019-05-31T02:51:32.514+01:00If you are a mechanic and get fired in a company f...If you are a mechanic and get fired in a company for failure or incompetence, what job would you look for after that? A carpenter? These are preachers! What other job must they look for? Come on!!Robert Rosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16949902437201444567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6439308861922854494.post-48401926089612768462018-06-11T01:59:45.630+01:002018-06-11T01:59:45.630+01:00I agree with you. I agree with you. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6439308861922854494.post-24205551780581973952018-04-14T16:48:41.017+01:002018-04-14T16:48:41.017+01:00Mutaasa Patrick
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Hey Man o...<br />Mutaasa Patrick<br />Public<br />Apr 14, 6:29 PM<br /><br />Hey Man of God,Jacob, the true definition of SIN and genuine REPENTANCE is here....<br /><br />Sin: Rom 14:23.... whatsoever is not of Faith is Sin, even unbelief ( Luke 5:20 And when he saw their faith, he said unto him, Man, thy sins are forgiven thee. Selah)<br /><br />Repentance; Matt 3:2 AMP...change of mind, regret of past sins and think differently.<br /><br />In the above definition of SIN, this qualifies all men, coz we all come short of the glory of God, and are justified freely....(Rom 3:23)<br /><br />And if a man is overtaken in a fault & comes to this realisation, changes his mind and seeks restoration, YOU who are spiritual draw such a one in the spirit of meekness lest...(Gal 6:1-3) <br /><br /><br />LOVE COVERS A MULTITUDE OF SINS.<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11016150047877752414noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6439308861922854494.post-11180101811295144332018-04-09T18:28:50.714+01:002018-04-09T18:28:50.714+01:00I agree that once restored they , as they have alr...I agree that once restored they , as they have already lost God's anointing, should step down from ministry. Some could be restored but most who do not get fully healed should not as they are spewing contamination into the body of Christ from the pulpit. Unholy marriages is a big no no.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6439308861922854494.post-66686818645493806322017-05-05T21:26:29.837+01:002017-05-05T21:26:29.837+01:00Yes. I agree. And I ber they have their share of m...Yes. I agree. And I ber they have their share of moral failure...porn..masturbation. looking at the other or same sex with lust. None are qualified. We are supposed to be dead. Jesus in us the hope of glory. That we go off and sin shows lack of hunger or mbe bondage. Because of reactions from people it's hard to seek counsel to get free. Sounds to me Liardon sought help....Anahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17663143654290076366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6439308861922854494.post-81408756749337215812017-05-05T21:24:27.741+01:002017-05-05T21:24:27.741+01:00Yes. I agree. And I ber they have their share of m...Yes. I agree. And I ber they have their share of moral failure...porn..masturbation. looking at the other or same sex with lust. None are qualified. We are supposed to be dead. Jesus in us the hope of glory. That we go off and sin shows lack of hunger or mbe bondage. Because of reactions from people it's hard to seek counsel to get free. Sounds to me Liardon sought help....Anahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17663143654290076366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6439308861922854494.post-91142598214176162532016-12-01T18:01:11.157+01:002016-12-01T18:01:11.157+01:00u hit the nail on the head.u hit the nail on the head.Beauty for Asheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07822862617737722597noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6439308861922854494.post-82094622657441267342016-10-15T18:34:09.803+01:002016-10-15T18:34:09.803+01:00Thanks for your comment. I attend a London City Ch...Thanks for your comment. I attend a London City Church (not KT) but have always felt uneasy about Colin Dye.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6439308861922854494.post-24602967441416453752016-10-15T09:55:09.710+01:002016-10-15T09:55:09.710+01:00Thanks for this. Will definitely be reading!Thanks for this. Will definitely be reading!Audreyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10127734133257415994noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6439308861922854494.post-48198604649209012222016-08-14T05:52:46.585+01:002016-08-14T05:52:46.585+01:00I was at the International Bible Institute of Lond...I was at the International Bible Institute of London when Roberts Liardon & a team visited in 2000. I wasn't a fan then, andi was unsurprised when his announcement of homosexual relations was made 2 years later...it was evident to me at the time that he had unusual affection for his youth pastor. When we live in a world that idolises celebrities, it's no wonder such idolisation transfers to celebrity preachers, leading to self-aggrandisement and unwillingness to submit to the Word of God. I'm disappointed, but unsurprised, that Colin Dye has elevated Liardon to head of IBIOL...after all, he does not reject the idolatrous worship of himself & his "ministry" by members of his congregation; in fact, I would suggest he encourages and promotes it. Liardon simply slots in well to that self-gratification ethos, and feeds the ego.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10900397377859776690noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6439308861922854494.post-25314060424486217272016-04-06T18:32:09.437+01:002016-04-06T18:32:09.437+01:00Rich S. Appreciated your comment. The 10/15/201...Rich S. Appreciated your comment. The 10/15/2015 post by Anonymous, I used to be a brainwashed rose colored glass person who wanted to believe the best but I've seen the evil/ugly side of Ministers as in 10 Lies The Church Tells Women by J. Lee Grady and violently killing sheep metaphorically speaking destroying people to protect their dynasty and control issues. <br />Wonder how long God is going to let them prostitute and whore his name and who he is giving people/world warped view of the Father. <br />2 Peter 3:9 for pastors/people playing God and praying for people to die and cursing them with Cancer that they control or usurping their will over others=witchcraft in the church. So sad. Watch DVD: Lord, Save Us From Your Followers by Dan Merchant. Always research a matter:noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6439308861922854494.post-62320447265715379302016-03-30T13:11:40.399+01:002016-03-30T13:11:40.399+01:00king David was a king, and not a pastor, prophet ,...king David was a king, and not a pastor, prophet , (he didn't have that position) or any kind of spiritual leader. Pastors are, therefore they can not be practising homosexualism. They lead other homosexuals sinning if they don't take a strict opposition against it. Is he married? no. Is he looking for a wife? If not, Why not? Therefore I don't believe he is cured if people say he is . Show me he 's married to a woman and has biological kids and I believe his restoration. What's his opinion about gay marriages? He comes across as very arrogant person (based on his facebook coments) He says britissh are socialists, and something how we should not care for disabled people as much or something like that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6439308861922854494.post-21904302439712943802016-03-20T20:44:38.722+01:002016-03-20T20:44:38.722+01:00Most of these comments are a sad commentary to the...Most of these comments are a sad commentary to the authority of God's Word. The question isn't about being forgiven or restored to the body of Christ, but what the Bible says about a church leader who is involved in serious sin that dishonors Christ and the Church in a public and despicable way. In short, we forgive and receive the repentant, but they are barred from further spiritual leadership. It's a no-brainer Biblically, but because the Bible really isn't an authority for many, confusion abounds and the world laughs at us. May God's Word guide and direct us!Rich Snoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6439308861922854494.post-5408517494591462292015-10-10T18:06:50.747+01:002015-10-10T18:06:50.747+01:00I would want us to feel with the Lord when He is s...I would want us to feel with the Lord when He is seeing all that is going on in the body of His. Rather than exchange endless legalistic arguments to justify what and why we are right, we should just do what our Lord Jesus did for Peter in Luke 22:31-32 “31 And the Lord said, Simon, Simon, behold, Satan hath desired to have you, that he may sift you as wheat: 32 But I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not: and when thou art converted, strengthen thy brethren”. Let us pray for ourselves because a fallen brother could receive strength to see his actual state when he is prayed for. God bless you all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6439308861922854494.post-28460034422754484612015-08-07T20:28:26.308+01:002015-08-07T20:28:26.308+01:00Majority of Post who do not want these leaders cor...Majority of Post who do not want these leaders corrected or exposed like Vicwise is wrong. This article should be posted for following reasons: WHAT DOES SCRIPTURE SAY? <br /><br />Have any of you question what they own, worth, how many Houses, Cars, planes, Vacation Homes, Ranches, Property (like read 6 pages of September 19-20, 2004 article on TBN by William Lobdell along with "Onward Christian Soldier". Haven't you seen Video of B. Hinn and Paul Crouch damning (cursing) people who come against their ministry. It's THEIR Ministry, God has no hand in it. One is Posted on David Wilkerson's website and George Barna writes about Paul Crouch and you can see that on some U-Tube video. One definition of a cult is "complete and utter disdain for correction", definitely those two. For the people who tithe to all these false ministry's your paying their Mortgage and Bills/Debt, Dreams and Lifestyle, Children's Private/college Education but they 're not paying yours. <br />How do you justify Benny Hinn making 90 million a year and no one questions what he does with the money? Trinity Foundation, Dallas TX has those figures. <br />Would you tithe/support a man that says "if you leave my ministry you will die" (operating more like a warlock) in book "Ashes to Gold by Patti Roberts. Cursing rather than blessing and operating in manipulation and control and emotional blackmail=Charismatic Witchcraft and Jezebel behavior=Oral Roberts. Assemblies of God operate like this as well as many others, very evil regime. <br />Pastors rather murder their lovers whether they be male/female because they have a name to protect, money coming in the way they want and YOU ARE NOT GOING TO MESS WITH THAT at all, their kingdom that they are building. This was addressed to over 350 heads of church leadership for years and It would be exposed in Book: Losing My Religion by Wm Lobdell. So, So, So sad what the church has become let along the Nation. <br />"This Generation of Preacher's is responsible for this generation of sinner's" Leonard Ravenhill. Battle Hymn by Secura/Phillips would expose corrupt NWO preacher's along with Marketing of Evil by David Kupelian and H.A. Lewis in Unholy Anointing. Rebecca Brown would also expose corrupt church in "He Came To Set Captives Free". Is your pastor/church going after prostitute, homeless, poor, fatherless, widow, orphan, broken-hearted. All pastor's should be working and not living off people or church (attend a ministry that NO pastor takes salary it all goes to helping people, servant oriented ministry). Preaches Bible and not dead verbiage/rhetoric. <br /><br />If pastor falls, minimum of two years out in counseling NOT of his choice (like the ones mentioned, Blog was right to expose/mention.. <br />Correction: met woman corrected Haggard and got thrown out and same for the other mentioned. David Wilkerson took care of Todd in Florida. There has been a church correction list of report church abuse since 2000. Maybe Tony Miano will post. <br />Always research a matter.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6439308861922854494.post-45362429067100953832015-08-07T19:22:03.129+01:002015-08-07T19:22:03.129+01:00P.S. Correction: David Wegner's Dvd on B. him...P.S. Correction: David Wegner's Dvd on B. him and John Bloom's article on same. Also, Los Angeles Times has done many an article and so-called Christians tithe and attend. <br /><br />If you want to know about your church or leaders: abused by name of pastor and church<br />Controversial articles by name of pastor/church<br />People's negative feedback name of pastor and church<br />Scandal of pastor or name of church. What's sad is they still exist off your hard earned money and time, God doesn't get any money and they usually lie about who they help and where it goes. Been at it for over 50 years to no avail. California has a lot of stupid people to keep all these charlatans in their lifestyle. Above reads are excellent. Get unbrainwashed and think for yourself. <br /><br />Thank you for posting this Blog and looking out for souls of men who want to live in truth. Research a matternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6439308861922854494.post-30345287217429556482015-08-07T19:12:06.823+01:002015-08-07T19:12:06.823+01:00Anonymous: most of that person who is defending li...Anonymous: most of that person who is defending lie, doesn't know what Talking aboutt, not mature and doesn't understand "Biblical Church Disicipline" by Daniel Wray or Bible. Defending their leader because following/worshipping man over God/Jesus/Holy Spirit sad to say (most of the time in abusive ministry and don't see it). <br />Confirm this Blog Post, have you ever met the people that God/Jesus/Holy Spirit sent for two years prior to the fall? Blog is. Right, these that were named did NOT submit to mandated Authority and counseling. Didn't those leaders take ads out in Charisma against Like Paul Cain and Ted Haggard? Colin Dye was wrong for intercepting what God wanted to do. Met the woman that. Or reacted Haggard and she was thrown out of the church along with others. What's sad is God T.V. Backing Todd with no discernment along with the thousands that flocked to meetings. <br /><br />Read: Don't Call Me Brother by Austin Miles (2nd book "setting the Captives Free),, Losing My Religion by William Lobdell, (pay attention to what he says about preacher's/leader's), Cages of Pain by Gordon Aeschliman, Pagan Christianity by Frank Viola (Green Cover only; red cover with cowriter); Subtle Power of Spiritual Abuse by Johnson//Van Vonderan, all books by Arthur Katz and Leonard Ravenhill, Blue Print by Clifford James, Churches That Abuse by Ron Enroth, Salvation for Sale by Gerard T. Straub, Sons of Zadok, C.R. Oliver, Tale of Three Kings by Gene Edwards, The Unholy Anointing, H.a Lewis, Pigs in Parlor by Frank/Ida Mae Hammond, Howard Snyder Books, especially Wineskins, breaking Christian Curses by Dennis Cramer, Toxic Faith by Stephen Arterburn, Will the Real Heretics Please Stand Up by David Bercot. Strong Man"s His Name, What"s His Game by Jerry/Carol Robeson. 10 Lies the Church Tells Women/10 Lies Men Believe by J.L. Grady. Watch DVDs, Lord Save Us From Your Followers, UTube: losing my Religion 1 hr. 3 min. Video;, book is awesome. , Marjoe Documentary also. Cages of Pain MUST READ on pharisical church we are supporting. <br /><br />Most sheep don't question foundations of their leader (history), where the tithe money goes, who they help; meaning tithe going to fatherless, widow, orphan, poor, alien, stranger, homeless etc. we tithe, don't question if they're in sin or that they are building a kingdom to self and God Does NOT get any money as you're robbing your families. Even though Dick VanSutphen's Christian Brainwashing is little new agy, it's correct. Most Christians are brainwashed idiots that cannot, will not and choose not to think for themselves, they're supporting and celebrating liars. Why Apostolic/Prophetic isn't major foundation. We don't know what real and true church looks like. Type in Trouble Makers in the Church by David Wilkerson and do those reads. Google Annunk site and read all the comments about controlling, abusive leaders. Trinity Foundation in Dallas Tx has been trying to expose TBN, Benny Hinn, Joyce Meyer, Pat Robertson, so has David Wegmer in his DVD and Christians still keep them in there hideous lifestyle. They would have to work hard and for years to collect their salaries while they live your money and stupidity of worshipping man over Jesus. Read:repentbethelredding.com by Tony Miano and do those reads along with Mike Bickle's evil regime. Also, cults always go after the youth. Somewhere there is post definition of a cult, much of false church/leader's today.Research a matternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6439308861922854494.post-76736604213744722272015-06-23T17:07:46.622+01:002015-06-23T17:07:46.622+01:00I belive that the primary purpose an article like ...I belive that the primary purpose an article like this should be written should be to edify and bring growth to the body of Christ. The writer needs to ensure that his motive for the article submits to that standard. Kindly remember that there are thousands of people out there including Muslim scholars, satanists, backslide people and bitter people with an agenda against the Church of Jesus. When we write kindly ensure you are factual, edifying to those who read so that the wayward are warned and the foolish become wiser. You just sounded like someone who just needed to write but lacked a mandate and so had to create one. If you a as born again person just remember that we don't kick the wounded and if your motive was to school the unlearned you failed in that regard.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6439308861922854494.post-85257504540003155752014-06-26T13:00:45.109+01:002014-06-26T13:00:45.109+01:00Jacob Prasch is no way to be listened to on the re...Jacob Prasch is no way to be listened to on the restoration on any one. He has wrote articles on nearly every preacher known on this planet. He constantly refers to those who fall as those who have " FALLEN FROM GRACE". But Paul uses this phrase in Galatians 5 about those who use the law as a means to staying in Christ. Jacobs foolishness really has been that he holds to his Jewish roots so strongly that he mixes the law with the grace of God and he in himself excludes himself from the gospel of grace. In fact those who fall whether big or small have not fallen from grace , but fallen into grace. I'm ashamed at the madness of these legalistic preachers of the gospel. If the truth be known about what goes on in there hearts , week, I'm sure hell would shudder. Good on you Colin Dye for restoring such a MSN of God but more than that a brother in the Lord. stephen. H.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6439308861922854494.post-40335187735994979492014-05-29T18:24:41.270+01:002014-05-29T18:24:41.270+01:00"I am the chiefest of sinners."
"P..."I am the chiefest of sinners."<br /><br />"Paul, a servant of God, and an apostle of Jesus Christ, according to the faith of God's elect, and the acknowledging of the truth which is after godliness..."<br /><br />"Am I not an apostle? am I not free? have I not seen Jesus Christ our Lord? are not ye my work in the Lord? "<br /><br />"If I be not an apostle unto others, yet doubtless I am to you: for the seal of mine apostleship are ye in the Lord."<br /><br />"You intended to harm me, but God intended it for good to accomplish what is now being done, the saving of many lives."<br /><br />What man meant for evil, God uses for good. If Paul is good enough for the Spirit, he is good enough to preach and write God's word for me!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6439308861922854494.post-75251209779569740822014-04-22T05:16:41.129+01:002014-04-22T05:16:41.129+01:00I was a student at Liardon's school and I was ...I was a student at Liardon's school and I was there when he announced his sin. I will quote him the best as I can, "I know you have been hearing some rumors and I wanted to let you know that they were true. I have been having a homosexual relationship with the youth Pastor John. I will be getting counseling and I will be back in 3 months." No repentance. No sorrow. No nothing. I left that ministry and I never looked back. The teacher's had been disappearing and we had no idea what was happening. We felt so betrayed. School Of Impartation and Livinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09446238464614392088noreply@blogger.com